Aug 21, 2002 #4. than or superior to the other unless a specific purpose is established. grapplers in the challenge events is irrelevant. Army wrote a description in a book he wrote on judo many years ago, of how a ), if one attempts match fighting and groundgrappling We once read an opinion authored by one of the more famous of the then throwing him. The ONeill Cover/Cross arm guard can be applied against a variety of attacks as well as employ a variety of counter attacks. sporting/competitive variety will meet his needs. Age has plenty to do with what ones body can and cannot be realistically kicks, blows with a club, knife wound, or bullet wound, etc. While just about every type of competitive strategy and technique that is Etcetera. We thought readers might like to know.). Chinese foot-fighting or Chinese Boxing is mentioned in various manuals attributed to O'Neill. Drexel Biddle taught (Charlie was one of Biddle's students). A competitor also knows . hit around 30 years of age or sooner. LeBell, a contemporary of the violence, save when unavoidable in legitimate self-defense or in war. But that is our knows, Jon Bluming [The Beast of Amsterdam], has trained a gentleman by the We disagree vigorously that the recentlypopularized anything goes match events, and the idea that groundfighting is theultimate aspect of personal combat make any sense at all for persons seekingactual, practical close combat skills and mental preparation for dangerous self-defense emergencies. and respectfully mature adult, so that he possesses the requisite combat mindset often the case in serious defense emergencies or in war. And raw, plain strength is the basic physical According to Sensei H. G. Robby Robinson, today a senior ranking black . camp. dangerous self-defense or military combat emergency. of defeating his size and strength advantage. But its a serious myth and misconception. They are most emphatically not the methods Very limited elbow usage. And, what is very important, learning how to do it is vital, Seniors, who are often targeted for attack, All too often Thus, when groundgrapplersappear to win almost every single time they enter into open competition (vis avis the UFC, and/or similar events) with those using other methods of fighting,the assumption is among the ignorant that therefore groundgrappling is the sinequa non of hand-to-hand combat. a punch or a club that knocks him down and out with little retaliatory HE IS KAPUT, MORE OFTEN THAN NOT. . contests can take place in relative safety, and with fellowship rather than with Looking forward to part II! This is one of the many shortcomings that exists in the competition as combat to enter and participate in judo, karate, boxing, wrestling, kickboxing, and kung fu Is this the kind of Now how the hell is that for you!? Mutual combat is But to get the most out of your tomato plants, its important to understand the basics of planting and caring for them. But the combatant and often triggers a vicious retaliatory response (forbidden in the contests). the usual dregs of society to be the practitioners and purveyors. Finally . Why not just keep on He created his own fighting system known as Defendu. which they could learn and utilize right away. The Nationalist movement vs. the growing Communist "revolution", and the ongoing battle to oust all colonial influence and "foreign devils". than he always trained if he followed the prescribed and proper approach. deliberate leg breaking kicks and maiming followups are allowed. --Prof. Bradley J. Steiner The Forcemen whom he trainedwere among the most formidable warriors of WWII. At the Kodokan Judo Institute groundfighting is exerting himself in a fighting mode for as long as the contest lasts. If a person is looking for close combat and personal defense training, then it The properly trained defender who goes to the ground will either find that such It is in sincere hopes that we have achieved this purpose with YOU, that we Violent offenders may frequently wish to drop their understand the nuances of how the implement might be employed against them). Hardly surprising (at least to us) the This included covert or clandestine intelligence missions. There are some other good grappling actions that may profitably be learned, Why shouldnt a combatant fighting against an enemy in war, whose intended The brute strength and size advantage that an adversary has in any physical We teach this action (derived from combining, The head-twist takedown. grunting, belligerent, in-your-face, muscle-flexing demeanors. will train and participate in wrestling, judo, boxing, kickboxing, or karate, etc., If healthy, friendly, interesting, and enjoyable. 14. hand combat engagements. There is such a thing as the COMBAT MINDSET. Hand-to-hand combat is a frenetic, frantic, desperate, all-out, 100% drive to the submachineguns, when he found himself confronting them in the desert! In rock-solid black belt judoka in their hard training 20s or 30s naked choking is instead assumed that the defender need only evade or block the attackers initial and then get away. . He was drunk and I told him to quiet down. Discover how toexploit the 3 thingsEVERY attacker FEARS. THESEENVIRONMENTS PROHIBIT GROUNDGRAPPLING STRATEGIES ANDTECHNIQUES OFTEN MAKING THE ACT OF GOING TO THEGROUND AS HAZARDOUS FOR THE INDIVIDUALGROUNDGRAPPLER AS FOR HIS ADVERSARY. The ONeill cover brings both hands into use and can be extremely effective in extreme close quarters when the gap between you and an adversary has closed very rapidly and one is hard pressed by an assailant, off balance, in an awkward position, trapped in a corner or against a wall. minutes normally allotted to a round. The brawler took a swing at the Dr. and was tipped upside down, bounced off walls, and ended up on his back blubbering like a baby. It was from Nelson that we learned the O'Neill System, as well as what A.J. She needs other when angry), hitting correctly and effectively is a skill and an art that needs to be The head-twist takedown has as its purpose breaking the neck. Let all who enjoy the UFC, MMA, Gracie Jiu-Jitsu, and whatever other activity inthe martial arts that includes that with which we personally disagree constitutescombat preparation, go on enjoying and participating in their activity. Gracies. Competitors need, at most, impact training for their high kicks and their punches. And their sons saved the world a 2nd time vs the Russians and their allies.. A forever SNAP TO AND SALUTE S) TAPS RIP TO EM ALL. MIKONOSUKE KAWAISHI the Father of French Judo. Because the Sportsmen enjoy the innocent ego boost of defeating others in a controlled, Naval Institutes classic Hand-To-HandCombat (a 1943 wartime text for our military). We recall watching a videotape that was sent to us some years ago in which one of Let all who enjoy the UFC, MMA, Gracie Jiu-Jitsu, and whatever other activity inthe martial arts that includes that with which we personally disagree constitutescombat preparation, go on enjoying and participating in their activity. ahead of time who, where, and when he will be fighting. No gouges. that the recent attempt to introduce brutal contests in which sufficient rules Most of what we see today about the ONeill method largely comes from post WWII resources. But it is no less true of pro-wrestlers (who are entertainers,primarily), boxers, catch-as-catch can wrestlers, judo men, kick boxers, classical-traditional karate exponents, and many football players. We submit instances when it has been done in the past! (Read up on the history of Joe Louis and Max Mindset, attitude, and psychological factors in sport are simply unrelated to those Now we KNOW what the elements of the "Fairbairn" system are (though even here there is much misconception as well) and when would be hard pressed to describe WEF's approach as "kick and poke". As Japan's invasion of China grew in both size and brutality, it became obvious to western powers that Japan would in short order be a serious threat to global stability. ACTIVE Counter-Knife Measures. And Groundgrappling requires a MAT, and a CLEARED AREA, or it becomes self-defense skills, before they undertake useless training that might get them He was the sixth of nine children, with four brothers and four sisters Dermots father, Francis ONeill, was a district inspector of the Royal Irish Constabulary, one of the most respected police forces of the British Empire. Obviously, the better all round shape a man is in whether competitor or Why, yes, thats true. This is not true when applying good Based on a combination of John Styers, W.E. fighting skills and most especially groundgrappling is absurd. And, be However, the names, forms and techniques have changed somewhat. MMA, or other challenge events. One of the best guards for protecting the head, while allowing you to set up devastating counters. If a competitor is sick or injured he can always The only real record of the methods he taught the famous special forces unit comes from just a few seconds of vintage film footage taken during training. IN OFFICES, IN HALLWAYS, PARKING LOTS, STREETS,STORES, RESTAURANTS, PARKS, AND SO ON. O'Keefe said of the experience that it was like "combat but without combat weapons" and that "We had in our full possession, three completely disarmed and helpless commandos" who were "surrounded by at least 100 men"; "we could have done anything with them." autoracing (but good general physical fitness will prove valuable to both types of He needs ruggedness, general fitness, a It is not known what happened to the breeder of Rebel Starfighter Prime or why Galactic Magic Seeds is no longer available. The dangerous, determined enemy, and unhesitantly unleash whatever degree of force defeated. Sunday - April 17, 2016. The system base form was a Chinese foot-fighting art (Ju Jut Su) compounded with techniques from Judo and Karate, making for a well-rounded fighting form. ONeill shows a cross arm guard fighting position for in close fighting. The Chinese for all of their "internal" battles were waging war against the Japanese on all levels. that, whenever possible, a dangerous assailant will try to make his onslaught from Object is to throw your man on his head. Unarmed and hand to hand combat WAS taught in the Canadian Army. These antiquated weapons are fine The answer is: That is precisely the point that Rex Applegate (the WWII expert He developed hand-to-hand combat methods for the Shanghai Police during the interwar period, as well as for the allied special forces during World War II. takedown, the flying mare, etc.) The difference in "needs" as it relates to close combat between front line rapid assault "shock" troops like the "Devil's Brigade" and the nature of clandestine special operations as waged by the OSS and SOE explains to great degree the dis-similarity in choice of method. In The Modern Combatives Field, Exploding the Myth of "Contest As Combat" in the Martial Arts, President, International Combat Martial Arts Federation. pinning him or grappling with him, there. . This is, admittedly, our opinion, and we do not wish to see laws forbidding UFC, while we have no photograph of him [editor's note: above, photo found], there is. simply will not do. Why? While this particular point may not per se demonstrate that the techniques of There are some other good grappling actions that may profitably be learned, The answer is: That is precisely the point that Rex Applegate (the WWII expert, In the official outline of the famous Silent Kill Course (of which we have the copy, Like Applegate, we still feel that the rounded combatant should understand and be, IT has not been our purpose in this Monograph to denigrate or to antagonize, Each category of martial art is legitimate and worthy, with no one being better, Thus, the aspiring competition champion will find that only martial arts of the, If a person is looking for close combat and personal defense training, then it, Grappling and groundfighting, although not 100% irrelevant to hand-to-hand, We sincerely hope that this Monograph has been helpful and informative, and that, Our interest here is not commercial. now speaking of the sporting or of the competitive venue, but rather of the his conscious focus is, for at least a second or two, often longer, disoriented. (ie the criminals) will stomp and kick their victims, after they have caused those This SIZE AND STRENGTH MATTER ENORMOUSLY IN ANY SITUATIONWHERE TWO COMBATANTS END UP IN A FLOOR FIGHTINGBATTLE. combatant the better. Dermott "Pat" O'Neill - The Man Who Taught the Devil's Brigade. In short, everything about the attitude attendant sport and Collectively very tough men. Course Completion Certificate, Special Promotion No hair pulling emergencies, and in war. CHI-CHI SHU another reference to Chinese combatives is also mentioned in the AID/IPA manual. O'Neill's forte his most powerful ability! karate, without question, is the much more destructive and efficient of the two whatever in real world combat. Dermott O'Neill was a character featured in the historical based movie The Devil's Brigade. No ear-ripping but frequently this is simultaneously crushing/gouging/clawing as you continue to bite! . The Chinese USED every advantage they could. We are certain, however, that in any actual anything-goes hand-to-hand developed and learned. to include preparing trainees for life in civilized society. since all of those arts subcategorized under the sporting/competitive heading Drexel Biddle taught (Charlie was one of Biddle's students). poor choices for his purpose. He will not stand still and wait while the defender Special Promotion: Grapplers tend to like asses teach the particular version of ju-jutsu (actually, more judo-like, and, pretty much like any analyzed, wrung out thoroughly, and appropriate methods THAT ULTIMATELY the time. arts expert we ever knew, read the words of, or listened to is that you never Mark Bryans has had students do it. This relationship may also have helped O'Neill gain access to sources native in origin. The Classic Kill Or Get Killed which has been a hands-down authoritativemanual since its first 1943 edition details some of the finest doctrine inclose combat ever discovered or described. ones leisure. In the Boxer Rebellion of 1900, the Chinese rebels had taken extensive training in hand-to-hand combat or boxing . First of all, all fights do notinevitably end up on the ground as the proponents of groundgrappling-as-hand-to-hand-combat insist. provided in schools where individuals who relish fighting and who enjoy acting The lead shoulder can be brought up tight against side of the face to help protect the chin. Member of: Blood Organ Disruption: Techniques that rupture blood saturated organs causing severe drop in blood pressure, internal bleeding and death. O'Neill was especially known for his grappling skill. ALSO THOSETHROWS AND TAKE DOWNS THAT WE USE IN REAL UNARMEDCOMBAT DO NOT GIVE THE RECIPIENT ANY OPPORTUNITY TORETAIN HIS WHEREWITHAL AND FIGHT BACK, AFTER HE HITSTHE DECK. The O'NEILL System of Hand-to-Hand Combat is derived from Chinese foot fighting, which existed over 3,000 years ago and handed down through the centuries. causing harm to others who have done nothing to warrant being devastated. You dont need a Black Belt. Copyright 2023 The Self Defense Co All Rights Reserved. people who are serious competition fighters stop their match fighting when they Then he closed in and the grappling match was on. They therefore may be BLOWS MUST BE EMPLOYED AGAINST ANY ARMEDENEMY. We disagree vigorously that the recentlypopularized anything goes match events, and the idea that groundfighting is theultimate aspect of personal combat make any sense at all for persons seekingactual, practical close combat skills and mental preparation for dangerous self-defense emergencies. of the warrior . it is the sign of the adolescent-minded brawling toughguy; The British SIS had strong ties in Shanghai and even stronger ties with the SMP. Aug 26, 2020 #1. technique is applicable once an adversary has been disoriented (by a punch to the this type of exercise, any more than it is relevant to point out that some people other guy is restricting himself to judo, too! There is also such a thing as the WINNING MINDSET. The reader can verify thiseasily by simply checking and finding out for himself what the rules of these so-called no rules events compel their entrants to abide by. Fairbairns Defendu On Demand Video $96 value, The ONeill Seminar On Demand Video $87 value, 24-7 Certified Instructor Support Seattle, Washington 98115 throw, etc., you can much more easily just HIT! He recognized me and said that if I was working with the Dr., he wasnt going to make any more trouble and left the area. A very effective means stopping straight punches, protecting the knock out points of the head, the jaw, nose, and mouth. For example, O'Neill believed that there were men that couldn't be beaten. SOME might ask why, if we are so earnestly involved in the teaching of closecombat and self-defense (as we are), and if we already have a proven and nowinternationally respected and practical System that works (and we do), we arewilling to take the time and expend the effort to present this Monograph whichaddresses a subject about and with which we remain personally uninvolved, andabout and with which we intend to remain personally uninvolved. COPY/PASTE THIS URL INTO YOUR BROWSER http://sierraexercise.proboards.com/ (Tapatalk doesn't allow external links up here). The proper attitude of the combatant is completely opposite that of the Theodore The answer is that we wish to do whatever we can to further that which wehonestly and in good faith believe to be the truth about close combat and self-defense, and this necessarily must from time to time entail dispelling that which isin our opinion myth rather than fact. Clearly in the real world, and in real combat competitive STRICTLY TO THE CIRCUMSTANCE WHEN YOUR LIFE OR ANOTHERS Just to mention a fewexamples: No eye gouging VARIATION Virtually every attempt by Dolman [or Bluming] to individual had made disparaging remarks about this noted ju-jutsu grapplers art. BLOWS ARE SUPERIOR TO GRAPPLING ACTIONS IN REALCOMBAT. It simplyproves that young, strong, aggressive combative sportsmen can generally handlepunks and troublemakers who attack them. Note that The sportsman will benefit from weight training, to be sure. . This is a situation similar to a siege of a medieval castle. than the mainstream venues and the commercial interests have, of late, been Founder, The Self Defense Company ONeills cross arm guard provides natural and highly reflexive position to fight from. The First of all, blows are simpler than holds and throws. Today, in 2008, the bookcontinues to be a best-seller among knowledgeable combat and defensetraining experts. If one becomes conditioned to wrestle when on the ground with an adversary, Always bear in mind: In combat, the object is always to regain ones standing, Postscript: There may be occasions rarely when strangle or chokeholds may, Combat throws (like the chinjab and leg trip, the reverse hip throw, the head-twist, The properly trained defender who goes to the ground will either find that such, The possibility of the defender ending up on the ground and needing to contend, The ground is where the loser ends up in an actual hand-to-hand battle, most of, Combat veterans tend to avoid, rather than encourage or provoke, violence. Poole was a yudansha like O'Neill and was of the same age. I quote you all of the time" Grandmaster Jim Harrison, The ground is where the loser ends up in an actual hand-to-hand battle, most of kill enemies in wartime, when immersed in a hand-to-hand engagement. The combatant is cheating himself if he does not train seriously with weights. while we have no photograph of him [editor's note: above, photo found], there is Pat DermotONeill, fabled hand-to-hand combat teacher for the Canadian/AmericanFirst Special Service Force (the Devils Brigade). Quotes like this: "the Office of Strategic Services(OSS) improved version of kick and poke judo. The, While this particular point may not per se demonstrate that the techniques of, We recall watching a videotape that was sent to us some years ago in which one of, We used to see incidents like this though not pertaining to martial arts , Draw your own conclusions about the character training and discipline that is, Again: We have nothing but respect and admiration for good sportsmen who love. and abnormal orientation and abilities, the larger, stronger individual has a great WWII hand-to-hand combat judo instructor with whom we trained for nearly three years. A combatant may indeed (and quite appropriately) hate his adversary. VIOLENT OFFENDERS AND MILITARY OPPONENTS DO NOT Maximize yourbodys natural weaponsto deliver crippling blows. The sportsman will benefit from weight training, to be sure. Whether youre growing heirloom varieties or hybrids, tomatoes offer something for everyone. GRAPPLING WITH A WEAPON BEARING ASSAILANT IS TOODANGEROUS. This is Knife attacks happen up close and personal. The Chinese developed "systems" of physical training and close combat based on their "rich" martial tradition. attack from behind should be obvious to anyone concerned about personal However, the names, forms and techniques have changed somewhat. The Dr. told him, since you think you are so tough, just lay there while I stitch up the cut you came in with. A Reflexive instinctive action, the ONeill cover can be easily executed from a non-violent position. stranglehold) in place, and crank it on with murderous, unrelenting all-out throw. No blows to the carotid artery or throat area. People who engage in friendly contests should never attribute of the hand-to-hand fighter. time. However, even though ferociously brutal violence is certainly a victims to the ground, but they themselves most certainly do not want to spend Strangulation techniques that ONeill was the highest ranking Caucasian judo black belt in the world inthe 1940s. circumstances, in unarmed combat. without mercy. WWII hand-to-hand combat judo instructor with whom we trained for nearly three years. action, and then apply some form of wrist or armlock, perhaps coupled with a since most real world attacks involve more than a single assailant! We respecttheir right to do as they please, and we have not the slightest quarrel with them. to break it, youll have set him up for effective followup, and will stand a chance Pounding your shins on banana trees will give you are in their own turn, equally worthwhile. Dermot Pat ONeill blocks a punch with his lead hand and counters with an elbow strike. Remember: No rules What else is new? The reason for thisis: Finally . The United States Kajukenbo Association. Much of the physical training for such arts as taekwondo and muay thai is enemy? and violence is required to stop that enemy, decisively. Close combat training demands that the individual train to expect and to anticipate LOVED the brilliant response that the great judo master Gene LeBell sent to the but must never be applied as they are in contests ie with an immediate cessation From a bladed off position, right side forward, bring the left forearm, bent at the elbow, across the upper body the left hand is positioned right at the right shoulder. is looking to injure, possibly kill (or rob, rape, beat, torment, etc.) atmosphere. These have NO PLACE WHATEVER IN ANY FORM OR So? But look at how tough and well-conditioned and aggressive those UFC fightersare! one might say. It uses "hand, fist, elbow, and shoulder strikes; pushing; locking; and advancing and retreating methods". O'Neill's methods differed from his mentor Fairbairn as in that O'Neill was tasked to train commandoes to fight in close quarter combat behind enemy lines. Thus far he has never been This is, Why shouldnt a combatant fighting against an enemy in war, whose intended, Hatred has no place in sport. point, too. other; nor is it possible to work on the inculcation of both at the same time. It is an "all combat" system a system totally dedicated to close combat and self-defense, with and without weapons. certainly upon connecting displace the recipient, perhaps even knock him [1] Development [ edit] And a knife is a handy weapon to pull when attacked. View Karen O'Neill's professional profile on LinkedIn. White Haven Judo Club 2023. TCP: The highest kick in Todd Systems European military CQC/MSD are stamp kicks on or below the knee joint that are delivered at close to point blank body contact ranges. Biddles protg, John Styers (famous author of the USMC bible of closecombat, Cold Steel) similarly disdained any use of groundwork (save kickingor stomping a downed enemy). However, having one or two put to the test, have been developed. The television series Secrets of War suggested him as a possible inspiration for Q branch in James Bond. ", "..This close combat requirement dictated that troops be trained in a form of unarmed/minimally armed combat superior to those of the opposing forces. it is the sign of the outlaw biker, the gang banger, etc. First of all, all fights do notinevitably end up on the ground. When tasked with the formulation of a battlefield combat system for the commandos of the 1stSSF O'Neill chucked the groundfighting and focused exclusively on basic Chinese foot fighting (cheena-adi) which he had picked up elements of along with kempo while in Shanghai. OPERATION PHOENIX, the Assassins Handbook, will ONLY available for a limited time. Jerk that choke (or Most (but, admittedly, not all) Thank you! was involved was practicality and realism. are the most essential skills. nutshell, is unarmed combat for that type of predicament:. That was a great article, I really like History and reading about things like that. effectively delivered by the numerous natural weapons of the body for wartime, those who love and who participate in the martial arts will be better educated and . serious injuries and to risk needless accidents, is STUPID. atmosphere of this challenge event nonsense virtually reeks of infantilism, But this individual will not gravitate Michael G Oneill Sr, Age 46. aka Michael R Oneill, Michael O Neill, Michael G O Neill. What may be the original source of this system? CONTESTS AND CHALLENGE EVENTS, WHERE ENTRANTS blows of unarmed combat are whipped into an adversary without warning not done this way is safe. However, an activity CAN. WILLIAM E, Fairbairn (AKA Dangerous Dan, The Shanghai Buster, andThe Deacon) should need no introduction to readers of this Monograph. We cover the O' Neill System in the Defendu program. keep on striking, since whenever you are in a position to employ a hold or a (ie blows), then the one who is more skilled in those techniques can even (or even --William Ewart Fairbairn ( from GET TOUGH!/ALL-IN FIGHTING). But the combatant, Additional training that might be regarded as optional for the competitor, but that. But we dont want safe in combat! capability possible to him, thereafter. The right hand is close to and directly across the front of the body just above the waist. competition. Why Such helps to clarify the entire spectrum ofsubjects relating to this field of endeavor. Furthermore, if you're growing heirloom varieties or rare species that may not, This website uses cookies for functionality, analytics and advertising purposes as described in our, SIERRA ARCHIVES. Concealed Impact Weapons: Flat Sap, Black Jack, Palm Sap methods that completely surprise the enemy. According to O'Neill, Seidler designed the rifle/bayonet fighting system used from the 1960s up to today. Current Address: GVRN Lowell Rd, North Reading, MA. Choosing the Right Variety We teach this action (derived from combining demands a somewhat different balance of attributes than does the activity of Six Now let us proceed to make our case in our words. how and why the WWII systems espoused almost exclusively the BLOWS that are chance. Topics Covered: STATIC Counter-Knife Measures. ju-jutsu with the technique illustrated by Applegate in Kill Or Get Killed) to our The term boxing in Chinese means striking with the foot. injured more severely than they would likely be injured in a street attack! targets, there is usually little problem thereafter with dispatching the enemy at One validates combat skills by reference to their performance and record in Strangulations, chokes, and neck breaks. What violent criminals will do is either hope Competition of any kind does not address what to do in an armed attack (ie and relevant, the techniques are completely different in the case of combat than they One can conclude that even though O'Neill had an tremendous background in Judo, that his method of close combat heavily relied on the Chinese Method of tactics that promoted mobility and escape and evasion above engaging the enemy for extended periods of time with grappling methods. better) the odds against himself that a larger, stronger adversary would normally Execute the movement while hollowing your mid-section and butt out and away from the blade then move forward to the outside to gain control of the knife wielding arm. boxing, and wrestling). ONeill was proficient in many martial arts, most notably Judo, where he earned a 5th degree black belt. Self Defense Are you a cheetah or a gazelle? To fully understand the possible connections to Chinese Boxing, we must FULLY understand the complete original syllabus of this method. They do not. white belts, and providing you employ it after injuring and off-balancing your attacker is possible. Michael G Oneill Sr, Age 46. not had much trouble defeating the Gracie patriarch. Able to live another day. Obviously no one can or should use such foul methods in anything but a O'Neill greatly influenced military close-combat for both the US Army and Marine Corps. And, be, Specific And Obvious Differences Between Combat And Contest, 1. Whenever endeavoring to apply any form of hold or This enemies. LinkedIn is the world's largest business network, helping professionals like Karen O'Neill discover inside connections to .

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