Sproul, and considered the calling of every . I hope he will acknowledge his wrong and sin. Churches are to be pastored by the group of co-equal, older men (elders) of a church who meet the qualifications of bishop, 1 Timothy 3:1-7, Titus 1:5-9. There wasnt just one incident of acting horrible and then it was over. Even when Jesus rebuked the Jews and flipped the table over in the temple it was done in front of believers. You have to realize at some point that God is in this grand illumination of corruption in the American Christian big business machine so HE can be truly honored and glorified. Give him and us a break please! There is no way for us to know for sure at this time and we maybe never will. October 21. [11] To Him be the glory and the dominion forever and ever. Your tax-deductible gift helps our journalists report the truth and hold Christian leaders and organizations accountable. Christs apostle Paul did not instruct, let her remain shamed away from the church.. The Psalmist David used to pray for God to deal with his enemies, why dont people pray such prayers today? These Elders need to repent, seek forgiveness and exonerate this dear woman her children. To donate, click here. On March 17, we published an article documenting how MacArthurs Grace Community Church (GCC) promoted and supported Gray even after his 2005 convictions for aggravated child molestation and child abuse. Another factor may be that she doesnt have the pressure to meet deadlines (doesnt have to churn out news product) so she can take the time needed for good reporting. I thought there was only one God. Point blank, period, end of discussion. They have left the safe path, that church leadership that deviates from the instruction and example from the Apostles and elders in the New Testament, the Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ. And remember he and his wife were resting during their absence from the pulpit when it came out later that they actually had the Covid virus. Too many Christians hide behind judge least ye be judged. Have you seen the email that went out to the church asking people to give money to his defense? Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. He should be held to the same standards to which he holds everyone else. Sproul took a plea deal in that case which allowed him to avoid prison. But nothing, not even a public apology. What is the future of reformed theology? I love him and his great skills as an Expositor, and I respect him for that, but he needs to come clean on these matters. Id hardly call what MacArthur did to Eileen Grays to be an act of kindness and service. Now about your sins that may or may not need the police to review!!!! Believing is contrasted with working many times in scriptures. Interested in joining the Ligonier team? Lord, I beg for your protection over MacArthur. When a preacher, who doesnt meet those conditions, preaches from the pulpit even when he is biblically accurate but then fails to walk the walk and seems only able to talk the talk, he then fails to respect the very reason for being allowed to preach in the first place. There is no end to the blessings that are ours in Jesus Christ. Although God saves His people through faith alone in Christ alone, that faith never remains alone. on Q&A from Ligonier Conference 2021, Right Now Counts Forever, Day 3, Click to share on Twitter (Opens in new window), Click to share on Facebook (Opens in new window), Man-Centered spirituality (modern false gospel, etc. On these tours, youll have time with these trusted teachers over a meal or at the sites along the journey. Only the blood of Jesus can do this and it is received freely as a gift by his grace to those who believe. Join us on November 12-13, 2021, for our conference in Detroit as we plumb the depths of divine mercy in Ephesians 1 together. The lack of journalistic integrity is on display on this site. CLARIFICATION: MacArthurs cancellation is apparently not due to his own illness. This is one of the problems with Elder-run churches. We are encouraged by scripture to believe the best, to assume someone is telling the truth unless its proven otherwise. At age 20, Eileen known to many by her previous, Hohn Cho, a lawyer and former elder at John MacArthurs Grace Community Church (GCC), accused the influential California megachurch of awful patterns. View our current career opportunities. I wonder how Phil and Justin are gonna spin this? You will meet these figures in ways you have never met them before. Well how can MacArthur justices crazy remarks after Charlottesville ?? All of this is spinning out of control, w/everyones comments & personal opinions. 5) If John or his ministry does not respond then it will wrongly fall to his peers to awkwardly be targeted. 27. You will also have rich times of fellowship with your fellow travelers, meeting kindred spirits and making friendships. Enjoy these highlights. Nor should you try to tarnish anyone whitout facts. Joyce, have you read Julies articles? John MacArthur has pulled out of the Ligonier 2022 Conference. If you cannot hold a pastor/teacher accountable here, and call him to repentance, when can you? All staff will receive a stipend for training weeks and then a weekly rate determined by their position and experience. Interested in joining the Ligonier team? Toward that end, the site requires that people use their full name when commenting. Be sure your sin will find you out. (Numbers 32:23) Every leader needs a Nathan. I pray that the only intention of The Roys Report is to call for accountability among Christian leaders. If you have comments or questions about this article, please let us know info@calvinistcadets.org. (Brad Schoolfield) Recently, news broke that Ligonier Ministries scheduled their 2022 National Conference at First Baptist Orlando, which concludes this weekend. COUNSELOR LOGIN | U.S. STORE | CANADA STORE. YOU, I have been looking for MacArthurs repentance? We are CALLED and COMMANDED to expose those in the church are engaged in dishonorable and sinful activities as John MacArthur routinely does. September 24, 2021 - September 25, . It is despicable. Pastor Heiland, there doesnt seem to be any reason to expect that being a great expositor or preacher or public speaker would overlap with being a good pastor. He is a LEADER who behaved disgraceful and led others to do the same. Over the course of the conference, Steve and Russ were able to talk to many people about the Cadets ministry. Ligonier Tours takes you to the places where significant events occurred, events that have shaped history. But dont say that we dont know the story. This is an ONGOING issue. Dr. MacArthur informed us this week that he will be unable to join us for next weeks conference. Our 2023 National Conference will encourage us to stand firm on the everlasting doctrines of the Christian faith (1 Cor. If Julie Roys found out about them, yikes. The 3-minute video of John MacArthur himself introducing the subject and pronouncing judgment upon Eileen with all comment closed off by the immediate serving of communion with singing is sufficient knowledge of the story to know that is not the Bible way to handle the situation of a woman separating from her husband. Its primary teaching fellows include Sinclair Ferguson, Steve Lawson, Steven Nichols, Albert Mohler and Burk Parsons. This is why the CCC sends representatives to conferences like this one. Since the Lord does not change in turbulent times, we must live courageously and without compromise for His eternal truth. 1Co 7:11 KJV But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried, or be reconciled to her husband. Sproul's new book. (Ding! The Ligonier Ministries site requires Javascript, but youve got Javascript disabled. It is sad, but this isnt looking good for anyone involved, especially believers. National Conference Sep 21-23, 2023 Atlanta, GA General Registration The Sovereignty of God God is sovereign over all. Ligonier 2021 Pittsburgh Conference. Sinclair Ferguson, W. Robert Godfrey, Joel Kim, Steven Lawson, John MacArthur . Ding!) To be like Jesus is to not mince words about snakes. I know that John MacArthurs ministry has blessed me for 50 years I have grown in my walk with the Lord I do not worship Man, but I pray for my brothers and sisters in Christ we are all fallible,, and in need of grace. Thats why these thing matter in his case. For nearly 40 years, Johns teaching helped me become a faithful Christian in every respect. Together, we commemorated the fiftieth anniversary of Ligonier Ministries, celebrated the ministry of our founder and first president, Dr. R.C. Is that what your sharing that Julie might find out about you? They are clueless about how the Criminal Justice Process works. Q5. When Moses spoke with God, was that a real manifestation of God or what? No One Knows. Absolutely correct. These men took 9 questions which are noted below. Lordship salvation is the gospel of John macarthur and it is a false gospel different from the gospel of grace the apostles preached and the gospel that the reformers believed in (faith alone). JUST STRAIGHT NEWS. Sproul, and explains how the teaching of Ligonier Ministries has shaped his thinking and touched his life. Grace even helped Gray launch and run a ministry in the prison, called Grace Prison Fellowship. They dont need signs. Enter your email address to subscribe to this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. Total Codes. I do not have any other details and would encourage you to reach out to Dr. MacArthurs office. These allegations dont detract from his work in the slightest. There is a question of whos work? Ive done things Im not proud of, but most people dont have the power, celebrity, influence, and even adoration that John MacArthur has. His attitude is not one of an elder and Macarthurs so called spokesperson. We can certainly learn from reading and studying. View our current career opportunities. Robert Godfrey: The Necessity of Christhttps://bit.ly/3a3eTw0Music:Solar Flares - Caleb Etheridgehttps://filmpac.com/product/FMAAA1833/ We hope that we were able to plant seeds of interest that will grow into meaningful connections and more Cadet clubs. So your saying some of your past sins are protecting pedophiles and wife beaters and youve covered up people that committed those crimes? For someone who believe that their action were right and just, they sure dont seem to be very forthcoming with an explanation. 2021 National Conference: Day Three Ligonier Ministries 550K subscribers Subscribe 1.3K 236K views Streamed 1 year ago With our glorious future in view, Christians do not have less of a stake. It only proves that some folks believe the worst about others no matter what they say. I have faith in the teaching of Pastor John and can see there are constant attacks on his ministry to compromise the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Rape your kids, beat your spouse, commit crimes, go to the cops. We see this is the third article this month youve found worth reading. Ligonier Conference Series with J. Ligon Duncan The Invisible Church Discovering Deuteronomy Learn More Renewing Your Mind Minute with R.C. Julie Roys is truly exposing the true lies from John MacArthur and his associates at the Grace Community Church. An elder must be above reproach. A Conservative Christian Elder Board, to be most precise. Right Now Counts Forever 2021 National Conference by Various Teachers | Ligonier Ministries If you are nothing more than a cosmic accident, your life doesn't matter. Only by walking in the settled paths of God's Word can the church of Jesus Christ serve Him faithfully in a changing world. The GCC Elders are arrogant and cant see arrogance in others David Gray. You can read it in the previous story here. I have no idea what youre referring to with the reference to people offering to babysit being lambasted. There is no mention of anything close to that in our article. You can literally walk in the footsteps of our heroes of the past, of Luther, of Calvin, of Jonathan Edwards. As we study the Apostles essential teachings on the character of God, we will be joyfully motivated to act on His Word and to live for His glory. Sounds like we are still unreformed and have adopted Romes conception of the church as power structure. That is totally taking scripture out of context. When the NT was written and the rules of how to handle things via the church, there were no law enforcement agencys. Eileen Taylors 20-year-old self could never have imagined her life today. He admitted to often being nude with his daughter. CITs: $50 for training + $80 / Week Base Rate. Even when there is an opportunity to fess up and give a truthful explanation as to why MacArthur will not be able to attend a scheduled event, they/he still gives excuses. Ligoniers Teaching Fellows and other ministry leaders serve as your guides as you explore these important sites. A particular thought pattern now permeates our civic discourse: We dont have to believe what they say, because they are dishonest, unfair. As was pointed out in this Roy report! We have transgender, LGBTQ, straight, single, married, divorced and cohabitating people. . We as men of Christ know how the devil will use media in an attempt to strip John MacArthur of everything he has done in total comittance in his life long dedicated life in our Holy Triune God, through the seminary, as well as Grace church. Sproul Trusting God The Westminster Shorter Catechism with Sinclair Ferguson Question & Answer 95 Valley Of Vision The Personal Touch Ask RC Church and the Culture Show Me Your Glory Learn More Music How is this what you are doing??? This article was shared on Facebook 1.1K times, so clearly many agree with its newsworthiness. 451 Ligonier Court, Sanford, . Questions & Answers with Godfrey, Lawson, Nichols, Parsons, and Thomas. MacArthur does not know the verse, it says: Jehu the son of Hanani the seer went out to meet him and said to King Jehoshaphat, Should you help the wicked and love those who hate the Lord and so bring wrath on yourself from the Lord? (2 Chronicles 19:2). To donate, supported Gray even after his 2005 convictions, Opinion: John MacArthur and We vs. They. Knowing all that has been done for us in union with Christ, we can more clearly see how the gospel informs every aspect of our lives, directing us to serve the Lord faithfully today. 16:13). Perhaps your assumption that he canceled because of your article, is just a way for you to puff up your ego and draw attention to yourself. This is devasting to me. (Note, conflict and celebrity are 2 of the 7 elements of newsworthiness.). (Brad Schoolfield) Recently, news broke that Ligonier Ministries scheduled their 2022 National Conference at First Baptist Orlando, which concludes this weekend. In MacArthurs case his higher calling needs higher scrutiny. It sounds like you are seeing these allegations as an isolated incident cherry picked from his past, where many of us are seeing this as proof of how he operates. That is not the right way to judge Christian brothers. This was alarming due to the recently exposed heretical teachings espoused by First Baptist. Guilty by association. No. He admitted to locking them in the closet, dropping/dragging them. **Rom 14:4 Who are you to judge anothers servant? [38:30 40:30], Q8 and 9. Of course it is. Meanwhile, the wife of the predator had been for years trying to keep her family safe and protected and had been manipulated into supporting her husband the predator, thus she had gotten compromised along the way. When a mainstay at a conference suddenly pulls out of the conference in the wake of controversy, yes, that is newsworthy, especially when the person is a celebrity. To pretty much assume that it is an excuse may well be jumping to false conclusions. Here we go again. Leadership Positions: Summer salary based on position & experience. When the Bible was written all people had was the church. Have you read the hand written confession David Gray gave to GCC? During this eight-day study cruise, Ligonier Teaching Fellows Drs. I believe this has nothing to do with the above mentioned ministries rather than the Church of Jesus Christ being directly attacked by those who hate God, hate truth, hate the Gospel and know that the ideas of the Judeo Christian world view stands alone preventing the evil one from destroying the The true Church of Jesus Christ and the salvation of many. Its scary to think every sin youve committed thirty years ago can be found out by sleuths. I guess they dont really believe what they preach. Assuming that the same person will have these very different skills would seem to be a foundational error in many cases. 2021 Winter Conference: Everyone's a Theologian. It may be an excuse. The world around us is constantly changing, yet Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever (Heb. Hey, Ive sinned too! It was a 3-day conference. Ligonier Camp and Conference Center is a Christian outdoor adventure summer camp and retreat center located in the beautiful Laurel Highlands of western Pennsylvania. 13:8). Sproul so often reminded us, right now counts forever. Why are they so angry when they are being held to account , when asked to walk the talk ? Saturday, Dr. Steve Lawson posted a picture to Instagram of MacArthur , Steve Jones, and Lawson golfing. If your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault, between you and him alone. The answers to Q6 occurred from the 21 minute mark to 38:30. Ephesians 5:11-13 says Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them. I think of Matt 11, where Jesus rebukes cities taught the truth but didnt repent, telling them that they will suffer the wrath of God far worse than those who were wantonly sinful but untaught the Truth, because if they had known the truth they would have repented. Think what you want, I choose to keep my eyes on my Lord and get my truth from the living Gods Book about man and information that actually corresponds to reality. It is reprehensible. Grace is the higher law here, especially amongst believers. These mega churches do not function biblically because its too cumbersome. Spanning the scope of salvation from election to future glory, the first chapter of Ephesians rests our identity as Christians in the sovereign grace of God. You are misunderstanding and misrepresenting what John has preached and written on the topic. Sproul and Ligonier in their lives. Stream for Free: Right Now Counts Forever Stream all of the messages from last week's 2021 National Conference for free on Ligonier.org, the Ligonier app, and YouTube. God bless you, Julie, dear sister. No one really knows FACTS. The cancellation comes after revelations that MacArthur had apparently promoted a convicted child abuser and shamed the abuser's wife. John MacArthur is very good at exposing the sins of others, but he doesnt do well when its time to expose his own Sins! It is not fair to assume that we know that for sure at this time. Jesus is Lord. Opinion: What is Revivaland is it Happening at Asbury? Matthew 18:15-17 The cancellation comes after revelations that MacArthur had apparently promoted a convicted child abuser and shamed the abusers wife. Phils response is certainly not biblical and nowhere close to being christian. You may as well say to a Christian policeman that he cant arrest anyone, in case the suspect turns out that they are Christian or claims to be. If they did they would see how errant their idiotic stance of David Grays innocence really is and see him for what he is: a cold hearted serious criminal who deserves to be where he is right now. A careful read of her articles will show that she keeps an open mind and pursues facts. All his friends will be asked their opinions about this putting them on the spot to address what John should have addressed but was too prideful to do so. 2022 National Conference: Upholding Christian Ethics 9,280 views Mar 20, 2021 222 Dislike Share Save Ligonier Ministries 447K subscribers The holy character of God is the absolute standard. 1) I was shocked the wife tried to formally withdraw from Grace To You church in writing they said they literally would not let her withdraw. All meals and housing are provided in . 9K views, 289 likes, 119 loves, 13 comments, 90 shares, Facebook Watch Videos from Ligonier Ministries: The third and final day of our National Conference has come to a close. You can also keep these digital messages forever by purchasing the conference collection from the Ligonier store. Don't forgettomorrow is the last Stream all of the messages from last week's 2021 National Conference for free on Ligonier.org, the Ligonier app, and YouTube. 2) Why did not the church report the attempted murder, yes that is what he confessed to in writing, to the police. All these gotcha websites, some of it is good and healthy, but some of it is just digging and digging. Friday morning, The Roys Report noticed that MacArthur had been removed from the conference website and tweeted about the discovery. Because John MacArthur is a Pastor, Teacher, Expositor, he is absolutely MORE accountable than anyone to give an explanation/apology especially on the magnitude of this issue with the Grays and what he did to Eileen Gray specifically. Sad to see so much opinionation. Trust God and pray for the truth to be known at any and all costs. College-Age Positions: $100 for Training + $285 / Week Base Rate. He seemed proud of his involvement in civil rights. With our glorious future in view, Christians do not have less of a stake in the present, but infinitely more. Sproul" and "exists to proclaim, teach, and defend the holiness of God in all its fullness to as many people as possible." Learn more: https://www.ligonier.org/about/ The conference theme was "Right Now Counts Forever." Tim Sykes who gives you the ability to believe. [40:30 48m], https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMuLTFOGPx8. Records and eyewitnesses revealed that GCC told congregants that Gray was innocent and blamed his convictions on his ex-wife. The Bible wouldnt lay out the qualifications for preaching if it were not that important. He lumps everything together into one gospel called lordship salvation and tells you, if you havent laid down your life to christ and you still have sin in your life, then you should question your salvation. Ligonier Ministries 421 Ligonier Ct Sanford, FL 32771 Telephone Number: +1 (800) 435-4343 Email Address: info@ligonier.org. Shes not acting as a church member, she acting as an investigative journalist doing a paid job from a secular standpoint looking at what goes on in the church. I thank God people like Julie are exposing the grifters and frauds and the sheep that continue following these godless things that use scripture to cover there evil. The Q&A panel discussion of this post is from day 3. In a statement released by Ligonier Ministries on Monday, the organization said the younger Sproul was removing himself from ministry for "personal reasons" but made no mention of his arrest. 0:00 / 47:27 Introduction Questions & Answers with Kim, Lawson, MacArthur, and Nichols Ligonier Ministries 553K subscribers Subscribe 300K views 1 year ago #ligcon A questions and answers. Ralph Thank you thank you thank you. This article has been updated to include information that MacArthur cancelled the event at Calvary Baptist Church due to family health issues. 4) I am so disappointed that John has not responded to this very important happening. Im not a follower of JM, but Im also not one to creat news where there is no news. Cheryl, very reasonable response by you. Thank you Debra Howard well said and i too have the same thoughts the Julie Roys ministry is important. And this is a pattern for him. GCC was given his confession. A person who is saved by faith in Jesus will display the fruit of the Spirit: love, joy, peace, etc. 13 But when anything is exposed by the light, it becomes visible, for anything that becomes visible is light. Spanning the scope of salvation from election to future glory, the first chapter of Ephesians re There is no end to the blessings that are ours in Jesus Christ. Due to his visibility, I believe his hubris has tarnished both. Ligonier Ministries helped me become confessionally Reformed and love our historic Christian faith! There are always consequences for words and deeds, unfortunately Mr. Gray broke the law. I agree we are all sinners and I agree I would not want my past exposed. Ligonier Ministries partners with Sovereign Tours, a Florida Seller of Travel #ST35876. You are a follower of a cult leader. Thank you Cherul Unruh for being brave enough to say so. To his own master he stands or falls. Didnt he and his wife also have Covid and kept that a secret? But nothing brings a person or an event to life like being there. I was thinking the same thing. I do, however, agree that a 1 Corinthians 5 situation is to be handled by the entire congregation that are led to consensus by their elders. On September 18, 2021, Ligonier Ministries and RBC hosted Always Ready, a one-day apologetics youth conference to provide an overview of key issues in apologetics and give answers to some of the most common attacks on the Christian faith. [21m 38:30], Q7. A good man obtains favor from the Lord, but a man of wicked intentions He will condemn. (Proverbs 12:2) I no longer support John MacArthur because his intentions seem to have shifted from revealing Gods will, to using his platform to conform others to his will. John MacArthur has pulled out of the Ligonier 2022 Conference. Works do not maintain salvation, but they are a sign to the believer that or she is saved, and seeing such undeniable change in a one of the ways unbelievers are attracted to the Savior. The church discipline was the result of David Greys successful manipulation of well intentioned God fearing men at Grace. Great! Certainly, we have all done awful things we wouldnt want being brought out into the public eye. I will point out that there is a higher standard for those who are in ministry. Indeed, he will be made to stand, for God is able to make him stand. The entire panel responded and every answer was great. May the consequences of his actions draw him closer to the Lord in full repentance and even thank God that he was stopped. I believe he is in his 80s now. #ligcon See less Comments Go ahead and say that you are going to stand by John MacArthur regardless of what he has done. I really dont know the whole story and neither do you! Get new articles and breaking news delivered to your inbox. The man may legit be Ill! While MacArthur withdrew, for whatever reasons those were, many prominent speakers remain such as Steven Lawson, Sinclair Ferguson, Robert Godfrey, Stephen Nichols, Burk Parsons, Derek Thomas, and Michael Reeves, amongst others. But in reality none of us were there and we have to wait for the truth to come out. Your tax-deductible gift helps our journalists report the truth and hold Christian leaders and organizations accountable. Lets stop the apologist nonsense for this behavior. MacArthur CLEARLY verbally attacked the people protesting the nazis at Charlottesville but totally mitigated and exonerated the nazis and alt right white nationalists who murdered Heather Hyer. He also comes across as extremely hypocritical, like a true Pharisee, when he preaches about biblical qualifications women not being allowed to preach, for example but then doesnt meet the biblical standard to preach himself. Nowhere do we see any of the apostles confront each other in front of the secular world. In the 1 minute video below, you will get a sense of the Ligonier conference and of the speakers who answered the following questions: I linked the Q&A video of this post below, while you watch it, you should see other videos of the conference nearby. It sends out mixed messages. The real gospel says its not about what we do for christ, its about what he did for us. Precisely. A premiere summer camp with excellent adventure and outdoor education nestled in the heart of the Laurel Highlands of Western Pennsylvania. Reply. These men are wonderful brothers in the faith, many having decades long faithful ministries that have benefited an untold amount of believers.. On March 8, The Roys Report published an expos with exclusive video showing that MacArthur shamed and excommunicated the wife of child abuser, David Gray, for refusing to take Gray back into her home. The Q&A panel discussion of this post is from day 3. It is a most magnificent truth. Not many of you should become teachers, my brothers, for you know that we who teach will be judged with greater strictness.James 3:1. The one thing I will never question is that my faith is Anchored in God alone no man, ministry, church or Denomination will change my faith. In the process, may exposed charlatans move on to another grift in shame and dishonor. It didnt convict me John MacArthur did that all in his own so very sad. This story will not go away. That said, vindictive comments from any side are beneath the calling of a Christian. Announcing Our 2021 Conference in Detroit.
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