The military models did have reliability problems that soured a lot of troops on the gun, and this was mostly related to poorly made magazines. Some folks have a problem with the safety, but if you know it is there and take the time to train yourself, it is not a big deal in the heat of the moment and can save yourself and others when outside of those heated moments. FULL DISCLOSURE: I admit to being the biggest Glock hater in America. For 1200 I could have bought him a brand-new damn gun. I say this because I have come across quite a few threads and posts in which other M9 owners have the same exact low and left issue with a few also using a gun stands to check their gun I have always believed that its selection had far more to do with quiet backroom quid pro quo in which the Reagan Administration agreed to purchase Berettas rather average handgun design in exchange for permitting the USAF to store tactical nukes on forward bases in Italy than with any inherent merits the 92 has. For those unfamiliar, Stoeger is owned by Berretta and the guns are identical. I think the US Army is after the H&K MP7, *BUT* with upgrades to its ammo that will copy the technology of the M855A1 round. PS: Check with WOLLF springs for steel rods. Another thing is I also really like the MecGar mags they make for all the awesome classic hammer fired double actions like the 75, 92, 226, etc. I probably should have qualified my comments with for the novice shooter. * Which is code speak meaning that the US Army at least is after something that will offer a significant leap ahead in terminal ballistic performance. Probably the best looking modern combat pistol around, rivaling even the much-loved 1911. You can lower that action pull all the way to 5.6 pounds with this kit. I referred to it as the Civilian M9A1 because it looks like the M9A1, but is capable of using personal-protection ammo commonly used for civilian self-defense. this was an awesome read ! But if it makes your panties bunch up, put in an aftermarket "G" series kit. 40 cal version jammed so often that my department had to return 1800 of them as the experts in Italy couldnt fix it. Without Locking Block and Plunger, With Locking Block Plunger [Add $45.00] 2 in 40 sw and 2 in 9mm, all of which i found to be an overpriced hi point. The Beretta M9 was the second pistol I was ever issued in the U.S. Air Force (the first being the Smith and Wesson Model 15 K-38 Combat Masterpiece), so it will always have a special place in my heart. Mec-Gar Beretta 92FS/M9 Extended Magazine 9mm Luger 20 Rounds Steel Black MGPB92 Mec-Gar Beretta 92FS/M9 Extended Magazine 9mm Luge Beretta 92FS/M9 Magazine 9mm Luger 17 Rounds Polymer Base Plate Steel Body PVD F Beretta 92FS/M9 Magazine 9mm Luger 17 Rounds Polym Galco Underwraps Elite Belly Band Ambi Holster Medium. Beretta also textures the magazine release with a circular-cut that engages your magazine release finger. it was just a drop-in replacement. My current purchases today though are striker fired 9mm M&P 2.0s (4.25" and 5") with Apex triggers. The M9A1 and M9A3 systems were massive improvements over the original, and the presence of a rail for a light is nearly mandatory for modern guns. And I can't agree more about the Barreta ! The peak formed on the inside of the magazine is designed to keep cartridges away from the walls of the magazine, and thus away from dirt, oil, and other foreign materials that may get trapped inside. 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Centerfire. yes taurus made a clone.. and like most clone guns, it sucks. Didnt Taurus make a version of this and didnt they make it better? I agree not gone use 92f 9mm as consled care gun just to big for that. Taurus is using Berettas First Series tooling which was left over in Brazil from the Brazilian Military/Police handgun contract which lasted for many years. The sight picture is great - VERY accurate weapon and well made. I don't think many people have them but if the px4 were more well known. Why? Another complaint Ive heard is the combination of a wide grip, and a long trigger reach makes the gun hard for those with small hands to use. THREADED BARREL $ 139.00 - $ 169.00; All pistol suppressors require a threaded pistol barrel. The DA trigger pull is now sitting at 8. Good review but early on you mentioned that the g17 came a few years earlier but the 92 is from 1975-77 ish in a slightly different configuration but still the same pistol mostly I couldn't let you give that to glock sorry. The black oxide-finished carbon steel barrel, 7075 hard anodized aluminum slide, and polymer frame offer lasting corrosion resistance and durability, while the tool-free takedown lever makes for easy field stripping and maintenance. The G conversion switch gives your Beretta a welcome respite from a slide-mounted safety. With a striker fired pistiol there is no cocking, and no need for a sefety..so there is no need to de-cock. I am an novice shooter in my late 50s and enjoyed all three firearms. Especially since the D model has a smooth hammer to anyone especially my one and only child. Beretta clearly makes this fact known on their website, Sig is silent. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. I have one for my 1911, and Im surprised at how easy it is to use and how well it works. Notify Me When Available. I will admit that the 92-series of pistols are probably one of the chunkiest around. Shot thousands of them. There is an advantage of the Beretta-style decocker over a SIG-style decocker . The install is actually very simple, and you can do it with some helpful Youtube videos. Many have swallowed the kool-aid, probably started on a Sig forum. This is a factory original replacement barrel manufactured by Beretta. As always Buds delivers promptly with no issues. Quick view Out of Stock. There have been some amazing advances within the past 20 years in firearm technology, as well as ammunition and accessories. Wilson combat has an excellent response to the safety/decocker issue. Youll get a cleaner pull and a better reset. Includes a locking block and is a drop in barrel and does not require any . However, the increased heft makes the recoil next to nothing, especially for those accustomed to shooting polymer-framed guns. The Beretta 92FS isnt all rainbows and butterflies. To my dismay black paint came off the handgun and stained my fingers. I have never seen anyone else with a Stoeger pistol and I really believe it to be one of the sexiest handguns outside of the 1911. I only have 200 rounds three mine, but it still had no issues with the Hornady XTP or FTX rounds. The Beretta holds 15 rounds in the standard mag with magazines going up to 30 rounds. gear. Its a bit wide for a sub compact but it holds 13 in the mag so a bit of bulk is kind of expected. Rim Fire. Have used The 92D and the 92fs for 30 years..works fine with a in the waist band rig for concealed carry. Any Pro Opinions? Sounds like you are pulling the trigger. Stay in the know. The quality of the 92fs is greatly diminished, the lock swinging sometimes breaks every 5000 shots. Includes locking block. I wouldn't want the new Sig either. I've regretted purchasing some firearms, but the 92 is one of the best I have purchased. It's size was just unwieldy in my hand, especially when I was going for a combat pistol qualification (not the "it goes bang; here's a ribbon" bootcamp qualification). I havent had a need to test any other hollowpoints, because it was my first choice. Not fired yet but polished the bore and ramps. I was laughing so hard and remembered that I will not hold a $320.00 gun to higher standards than higher priced firearms. To further inhibit corrosion, 92FS barrels feature hard-chromed bores and chambers. Quoted delivery times on your order summary page are estimates and cannot be guaranteed(7 DAYS MAX). (By child I mean my kid he's 23 so stop what your thinking). The P90 & Five-seven would already be issued if Germany was not such a sore loser that they used their NATO card to derail the entire project when their 4.630 lost the competition to FNH. You do not pay By the way, on the Wilson Combat website, under the Custom Work tab, you can watch the video for the 92A1 Custom Carry Package showing Gunslinger & his technique for grip & control. My M9A3, Kahr, and PX4 eat them, also. After my first 1k rounds of 124gr factory ammo, I have been shooting only handloads of 124 to 160gr. Those new fiber optic 1 big orange dot with a green/white center for the front sights with 2 green for the back sights style of sights are awesome. Its not all snappy or challenging to control. The Glock 17 premiered years earlier, but the refusal to accept polymer frame guns helped the Beretta gain massive popularity. Thats been rectified, and as long as you stick with OEM magazines or Mec Gar mags, youll be good to go. In 2006, the CNA did a survey of all who actually used their M9s in combat (Iraq and Afghanistan) and found that it had the lowest user rating of any US weapon, with 46% of soldiers who used it stating that they had reliability issues. The 92FS is the most popular model, and its what the military adopted as the M9 in 1985. I have heard the naysayers in regards to the slide mounted safety/de-cocker and its supposed flaws. Ergonomics * * * * This does mean the barrel can pose a little more risk of burning you because there is nothing between the barrel and your hand like a slide, but it also cools faster. 3. How about asking why almost every police department in the US uses them? It's a big fella, and if you are trying to carry IWB, then it might be an issue. My research indicates that Beretta won the trials in 1980 and in 1984 a new trial began were the last two contenders considered were Beretta and Sig and Sig did not match the reliability of Beretta and therefore lost out as far as head to head testing. My issue had to do with with its ergonomics. Again, I still think the M9A1 is a great weapon and once I finally spring for replacement sights itll be almost perfect (for me at least), We train Soldiers to use the blade of the non firing hand to rack the slide by catching the front of the rear sight (ala 10-8 forums rear sight) on the top of the slide and apply sharp rearward pressure while pushing forward with the grip hand. While the M17 may have replaced the Beretta, we can certainly disagree with that choice, but still, love the 7360 holster. The 92FS is a very comfortable gun to hold. 2K rnds no failures. Calling barettas bulky? as so equipped. Weight is 27.7 ounces unloaded. The barrel length is 4 inches, and the magazine capacity is increased to 17+1 of 9mm. The biggest difference: the magazines. The -9 is usually kept to keep track of rounds fired in artillery pieces. COPYRIGHT 2021, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM. A G Beretta 92 is a model with a decocker only, and you can turn your 92FS into a G model by merely swapping a part or two. Handgun Search; Tabletop Compare; Overview . There is about a half-inch of takeup and then a slight wall then boom. This usually happens during a stage in competition that a guy had been doing real well at. This is the exact same as the Taurus 92b-17 that I bought a few years ago. and that smaller-statured soldiers [ie, women] would find it easier to grip than a 1911 [with that huge fat M9 grip?]. The password should contain at least 8 characters with at least one number or special character. They are nickel plated (doesnt matter to me). This duty weapon comes with a 9mm magazine that holds 15 rounds plus one. Sand-Resistant Magazine: Developed for the sandy environments of Iraq and Afghanistan, this unique magazine comes standard only on the M9A1. Alien gear makes a IWB holster that I used now for 6 months with out any discomfort. However, the Beretta faced a lot of opposition there too. This circular design makes it easy to engage without sticking out like a sore thumb. I very much like this gun, but I will admit its dated for the price sometimes. Which is then followed by a ubiquitous click as the shooter presses the trigger and the hammer goes forward on a dry chamber. The reason is that it was designed - and has kept evolving - to be and remain the most accurate, durable and reliable semi-auto handgun on the market. With the 98FS I also shot 200 meters, 50 m. is very accurate at 25 yards I can hit a coin, but Im a shooting instructor. When I shot it, while on active duty, I thought it was the most accurate pistol I had ever shot. Subscribe to Pew Pew Tactical's sales and deals email. The US Army wanted a Safety (having been raised on 1911s). While static shooting at the range from 25m, well lets say being a combat gun it was not designed for that, although I still get 6 to 8 inch groupings without too much fancy aiming!good enough for bad guy popping. No problems at all, including +P loads. Any other explanations? I think its Taurus best selling firearm. The Barrell was need because I gave my son my old 92D and he informed me that he was not find of it because of the long and heavy trigger pull. Its a precise weapon thats consistent in its ability to hit your target. The first time I ever taught structured firearms instruction was for the Marine Corps, and when it came to handguns, Im glad it was the M9. OH, yes, the Glock. Its smooth with little stacking. Thats pretty possible with the Beretta and some practice. This is a true drop in barrel with finished chamber and does not require any gunsmithing. Glock 17 came out in 1984.the 92 series came out in 1976. The pistol points well, and shoots where I aim. The overall shape and styling of the 92A1 is based on the 92FS with an accessory rail on the underside of the frame, while internal design is based on 90two.The 92A1 can interchange magazines with other 92-series pistols, as well as the grip panels, where the 90Two uses a wrap-around grip panel that can be user-changed. Learn the 3 most popular shooting stances & more. Get the best deals for beretta 92fs barrel at eBay.com. Pre-Owned. Barrel Length: 5 Bore condition: Excellent. Also the 4.630 had its butt kicked in every measurable way by the 5.728, which is a much more common round in NATO countries. SOME NATO marked ammo is hot but there arent any NATO nations issuing guns that cant handle it. Smith & Wesson M&P 9 Shield Plus For Sale . All products found on our website are available in stock. I find this hard to believe, because in the 400+ rounds pushed downrange I had zero jams to clear (more on this later). The Beretta, in general, has proven to be one of the most reliable pistols out there, passing three separate military tests without a hitch. When applied, the safety safely lowers the hammer, and also rotates the rear of the two-piece firing pin out of alignment, thus making it impossible for the hammer to strike. Like I said before. Even when wearing gloves, I could still find and use Berettas magazine release. 3-Dot Sight System: Like the 92FS, the M9A1 features a white 3-dot sight pattern for quick acquisition of the target. I welcome your comments and applaud those who do carry daily. Beretta 92FS 92 90-Two 9mm 17-Round Steel Magazine Price $32.00 In Stock 5 Reviews JM909P17 Beretta Beretta 92FS 15 Round Magazine Price $32.00 In Stock 1 Review JM92HCB Beretta Beretta 92FS 9mm Magazine 30 Round Price $40.00 In Stock 1 Review C89282 Beretta Beretta 92X FR Full Size FDE 15 Round $899.00 (Save up to 6%) Price $849.00 In Stock $746.99. The 92G, Brigadier, INOX, and others are arguably better. The Beretta and Sig both passed testing well ahead of the competition, but the Sig scored higher in standard reliability and was cheaper than the Beretta. I went to the range today and took the 92fs 9mm, 1911 .45acp and a inexpensive cz999 in .40S&W. The M92 has always been a good pistol. I must agree with SFC Garcia, with 2 tours in the middle east and more than a few rds on the M9, I like and respect this weapon platform. I am so sick and tired of Glock, Glock, Glock. It loses a whole point for the safety/decocker placement. The 92A1s ergonomics are fantastic, My grip naturally fell into place on each string. The Beretta 92FS Made in Italy. Used. If you get a 92FS (and I highly recommend it) get it because you love it or love the idea of it, not because you want the best of the best full-size pistol on the market. Travis, At 200m the 115 gr bullet will drop over 61 inches. The joke is that you might not hit the 10-ring but you can still pop the bad guy. I really love this gun as it is durable/ heavy/and well made.. however it is an outdated piece of equipment. In my practice with the weapon it is very slow and easier to keep the gun decocked with the safety off. The Army and Marines agree and adopted a Safariland holster with the new M17 handgun. Youre mistaken as far as reliability, however, many other misinformed are as well. I hear people talk about PVD as being the actual coating, but this is a common mistake. On my way to the range, I also picked up a few boxes of Federal 124-gr FMJ, Remington UMC 115-gr FMJ, and a box of Winchester PDX1 124-gr +P JHP, and Winchester PDX1 147-gr JHP. Select what level shooter you are! *Now I dont claim for a second that Im the best shooter in the world!! 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Springs not replaced when needed because no round counts kept for individual weapons. Recover Tactical does have a rail system that replaces the grips and adds a rail to your gun. compare. Its milled as part of the slide and cant be replaced cheaply. And its just a 9mm. Recoil is very low, as is muzzle rise. I was in Camp LeJeune, NC at the time and there were plenty of concerned Marines that simply wanted to stick with the "tried and true" 1911. You can get flush 17rnd mags from Beretta, standard for the M9A3 or 92A1. Barrel Length: 4.25" Magazine Capacity: 13; Sights: 3-Dot; Weight: 33.3 oz; Color: Inox; Related Products Sale. View cart for details. Take and load 5 to 7 rounds in a full size magazine, then try that trick. Holding to the same commitment to quality as all of our products, the threaded barrels are tough enough to hold up under the harshest conditions. Its design is unique, and its instantly recognizable as a Beretta. Fortunately theyre gone from many police departments and the military finally got rid of them. yep it is outdated for sure. I can shoot it batter. Its not only an easier way to attach a suppressor to your Beretta, but its a damn fine barrel. I agree. but a 92-A1 is not a civilian M9-A1. Safariland 7360 Level-III Retention Duty Beretta 92 Holster. Beretta Slide for Pistol Model BU PICO .380 ACP. I know that no matter what the gun is subjected to, I can grab any 9mm round and trust it to go bang and cycle when I pull the trigger. The magazine release is also reversible for lefties, which is another nice touch. Here are the problems, and a little gem of a tip for those of you slamming the magazine into the pistol to get the slide to release and thus load a new round into the chamber as quickly as you insert the magazine neeto huh? Beretta 92FS Specs Caliber 9 mm Sights 3 White Dot System Action DA/SA Semi Auto Overall Length 8.5 Length (barrel) 4.9'' Weight 33.3 oz Capacity 15 Rds The Beretta 92FS is a full-size, semi-automatic, 9x19mm, DA/SA pistol. Make Offer. Number of bids and bid amounts may be slightly out of date. I do appreciate the decocker on my SIGs, which as you mention are spring-loaded, but not because of the spring, but because they are just easier to operate (for me). Reviews (0) 96, 92, M9. Would I feel improperly armed in a gun fight? The Beretta 92FS is 9mm only, with the 96 being a .40 S&W caliber variant. Im not a Pro here but Ive shot a lot of S.A./ D.A. Ive got the 9mm subcompact version which is a little different from the campact and the full size storm. As for the safety, if you train yourself to flick the safety upwards with your thumb as you draw the pistol, it is just as quick as the downward-pivoting safety of the M1911. Look into the G conversion kits. I have shot the Beretta in the military for years and carried it deployed. Lot 107: h 397 mm cal. The trigger is a love it or hate it affair. Drop In, Fitted - Gun Must Be Sent In [Add $60.00] Barrel Options. As the proud owner of an Italian-made 92F 9mm (purchased while on Navy active duty deployed to the Mediterranean in 86), your assessment is completely accurate. The Glock, not so much. This is not 1/2 x 28 threaded and I am not 100% sure what these threads are. It is still black and will cold blue it if need be. Never had a problem drawing and firing my service pistol or my personal pistol quickly and efficiently. The trigger had always felt kind of mushy with heavy break point, so I did some research and bought the Mcarbo upgrade and did the work myself. Forgetting to reset the decocker isnt a gun issue, it is a training/practice issue. If I had to have a polymer striker fired gun it would be the Glock. Free shipping for many products! The 92A1 has a rounded trigger guard, almost reminiscent of the 1911. I am the proud owner of a Beretta M9A1 which I believe to be a wonderful weapon! compare. Average number of rounds between stoppages in standard reliability tests: P226 = 2,877 , Beretta = 1,750, Colt M1911 162. On the slide it says Model 92A1- Pietro Beretta Gardone V.T. the 90Two was built for the .40 S+W cartridge,so +P 9mm should be fine. My reasoning is this. The slide then moves forward and can be removed. Youre reviews are usually right on target. I bought it because the minute I put it in my had, it felt just right. This pistol is in great condition with an excellent bore! SAAMI specs for a 919 parabellum are 34,100 psi. As with any gun (from 1911 to Glock), and any shooter, there needs to be a certain level of familiarity for both to be effective. For sale is a Beretta 92FS semi-automatic pistol in 9mm. Not Yet Rated Sold Out. The heavy double-action trigger pull (think 12 to 15 pounds) was more than adequate to ensure that no AD would occur. It appears the 92A1 (only out since 2010) has a slide that is specially designed to retain the captive polymer recoil rod/spring assembly. Beretta Grip Screws for Beretta 92F 92FS M9 SB 96 Elite M9A1 80 Nickel 4 Pack, New Beretta 92/M9 barrel for Training Sim Rounds. Copyright 1995-2023 eBay Inc. All Rights Reserved. With the upgrades to my Beretta I do not see the need for a 92x but I think the 92x Beretta Performance is the most beautiful gun I have ever seen. If you wanna go big and lets be real you do, the extended magazine from Beretta gives you 30 rounds of 9mm. SKU: V2-F4-NV Categories: Handguns, Used. Barrel sizing of 9mm and 4.9" length. I make the bullets just short enough to still fit in the magazine and find this to be a very accurate shooter. Best trade I ever made. Its not a bad design. To make matters worse, I now have been bitten by the Beretta bug. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. The slide lock is also one of the most well placed and designed. The 92-A1 is a reworked 90TWO,and the Frames Dustcover and Slide are wider than a standard 92FS. While traditional blueing or Parkerizing is a surface-modification, Bruniton is a coating. My first Beretta was a pre WW II bring back in .32 APC and found it to be accurate and reliable. Its on the cover and poster for Die Hard, on three of the four covers for Lethal Weapon, and its even on the poster for Pulp Fiction, even though its not in the movie. She garburates anything I put thru her. Beretta 92FS is a series of Beretta 92 semi-automatic pistol. The advantage of the 92A1 over the M9A1 is that owners can choose to replace the sights if they so desire. Action: DA/SA with safety/decocker Nice review! So glad we finally got rid of them. That being the case, and with the dramatic terminal ballistic performance improvement that the M855A1 offers (over M855 or other 5.56 ammo), I think the next side arm will not be a side arm at all. Good article. MGW carries replacement grips, magazines, barrels, ejectors, triggers and other parts for these models. I proceed to by every part and price to hotrod the to a 92G full size. I placed an order for one at my gun store afterwards and hope it doesnt take two months to get here, the joys of living in CA. Check Price . And there is some side play as well between the slide and the frame.

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